Hi, thanks for responding. My situation is that I am a long time X10 user (who isn't?) that is 80% migrated to Insteon. I have an HA package that I am looking to move away from and evaluating Elve as one option.
I considered ISY a few years back and didn't given the Insteon management functions that are there in the software I have today.
When thinking about the move, its the Insteon device management functions that get tricky in that discussion. You have a serial (or serial USB) device that owns the PLM(PLC) and either the Smarthome software owns the connection, the ISY or something else.
One way is the ISY. I am familiar with Bob P and his work and I'm very comfortable with him and that. I had looked at ISY when I started down the Insteon path but decided against it primarily for the cost, and the fact that a lot of its program-ability overlaps what HA software does. (Having an Ocelot in the distant past I considered those kinds of tradeoffs).
This new insteon device seems to be half the cost of the ISYs and provides the internet configuration and integration in that cost. No additional software needed. In listening to an experienced developer, it seems the messaging to talk to it is not that different, other than being network based instead of serial com: based. I think its going to be very popular very quickly. I also have found the "one throat to choke" with smarthome has been valuable when debugging / getting support. (Nothing against the ISY, just one manufacturer is easier to deal with)
If the hub is not going to be on the radar for elve that's good to know. I have a PLM that's fully configured with all of the devices I have so connecting to ELVE may not be that traumatic in that I could try that during the eval. But any device additions, changes or group updates would be tricky. The new Insteon hub seems to be cleverly fit to this market in addition to those just getting into HA.
Thanks again for responding,